I just read where the airlines are sending planes to El Salvador to be maintained. THEY HAVE OUTSOURCED EVERYTHING FOLKS! People need good jobs, that reflect the cost of living today! I am 67 today, and when I was in my 20’s my salary reflected my low rent, and my employer gave me free insurance after 30 days. I am not happy with Medicare!!! I am blessed that I work 30 hours per week for 10 months out of the year. I am glad I am not a young person today, watching my country hire anyone from anywhere, as long as they are not native born and legal Americans. We have so much in this country, if people were not so selfish and greedy. I pray the hottest part of HELL is reserved for the so call leaders, who sell out their people.
I’ve been stuck in sticky, humid, big-ridden Louisiana for years and am sick of it. I’m 22 and am planning on driving out to Flagstaff, AZ and living out of my car until I can get a job set up and find a little apartment. Let me say that I read every comment here after I thought of Googling “living in your car” and the sea of information presented will be incredibly helpful. I never would have thought that there were people whom actually preferred it to a conventional house.

Ive been living in my VW jetta for about 10 months now. I took out the front seat and half of the back seat to build a bed platform with the storage underneath and even have a slide out kitchen in the lid half of my trunk space. I absolutely love it. I’ve been to 8 different states, climbed countless mountains and really been able to live comfortably and in a very sustainable manner. I also have no plans on upgrading because I thoroughly enjoy getting 32mpg.


It is best to arrive late in the day, park, and then remain silent and quiet. If you are parked in a residential street, don't do anything to alert the people there that you are living in you car. Mostly, don't do anything to annoy the residents like make a lot of noise. In places away from people, you can of course use your lights, play music but don't over do it. If you can get permission to park some where, then you should feel free to make reasonable noise and show reasonable lighting if you need to. I've heard of some planned parking arrangements in the US now as the number of people living in cars has risen due to the financial crisis and foreclosures.
There are a few simple cooking methods you can use from within your car. An electric teapot will allow you to eat oatmeal, soup, and noodles. If you have a thermos, you can keep the meal warm for a long time. Some propane ovens, those meant for camping, may work in your situation, just don’t cook within the vehicle itself. If you have enough space and power, a microwave may work too.
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Great thread! I’ve had lots of experience living out of my car. I say living out of because I didn’t always sleep in it. If the weather is good then I find a safe spot (I’ve had good luck so far) and then sleep next to the car. Sleeping in a car really sucks but recently I got a pickup truck with a shell. I built a small wooden platform that I can store gear underneath and sleep on top with plenty of room. It’s really cool in a geeky way. I’m also a big time backpacker so I have pretty good gear like a warm bag and a small stove. I’ll take sleeping outside any night but I like having a ‘backup’ plan in case the *hit hits the fan.
I think the first thing was getting in the mindset. Realizing everything I’d have to give up and how I could either live without or find alternatives. I had to sell my Infinity for an old minivan cause I realized this was now my house and home. I wasn’t just traveling or camping…I was living. I spent four months ridding myself of most of my worldly possessions and unloading myself of my 7-room house. I also spent this time researching camping, traveling, boondocking, anything that might help, as well as cool places to see. And unless you’re independently wealthy…get an online job.
You’ve got the right idea about food. If you have a camp stove that runs on butane canisters or liquid fuel, good. they are reasonably cheap. Peanut butter sandwiches, with additives if you haven’t any means of cooking. Jam. pickles, parsley if you like it, for iron. If you can cook, try dicing two washed potatoes, one onion, boil in salted water till soft, don’t drain the water, add milk powder and more salt to taste, eat. Practically a complete food. and surprisingly filling and yummy. Eat it out of your saucepan, and you won’t want takeaways. Potatoes will keep in a dark place. Onions will keep.

My husband and I are just surviving staying in one spot. So I have been looking into RV living and traveling since he can get jobs on the road. Then I just happened to see that someone had transformed their car into a livable home. I have a PT Cruiser and have been looking and researching. What are the opinions of people who have been there and done that.


I had dark tint on my windows some of the time I slept in my car. If you don’t, you can put dark towels up in front of all windows. You have to be conspicuous though and make sure no one is around when you put them up. Just go to your spot, park, shut the car off and set the towels up. That is what I did. Make sure you choose the same place for sleeping every night. It makes things a lot easier. Don’t tell anyone where you sleep.
As previously stated, Morgan reported a death case of colon cancer with LM induced by anti-ERBB2 CAR-T cells for off-target attack on normal lung cells. Also, in 2013, Lamers et al.47 reported that in his treating of metastatic RCC through CAR-T cells against carboxy-anhydrase-IX (CAIX), the patients appeared different level of hepatotoxicity, and the reason was the ectopic attack of biliary epithelial cells induced by anti-CAIX CAR-T cells.

I would like to let you know how apartment owners are ripping off renters. I have always paid my rent, and that was it, unless I paid for electricity, heat and gas. Two years ago, my rental agency decided we have to pay for the water based on the # of residents in the apartment. This month I was told I have to pay garbage removal fee. I am on a fixed income, as everyone is today. I was told to add the extra charges to my rent payment, yet an out of state company bills me for water. I have been a condo owner and a home owner, but apartment rental works best for me. If they keep going up and adding more fees, then I will be living in my paid for van, and cleaning up at a health club. It seems no one cares about the real American people.

Packing for life on the road walks a delicate balance between stripped-down minimalism and allowing for a few key creature comforts that can boost morale on an infinite scale. It’s a pretty refreshing feeling to know that everything you need is with you at all times, a feeling that makes you seriously question all of the cardboard boxes piled high in your storage unit back home. For those ready to embark on an epic adventure, here’s a quick guide for achieving that perfect balance when it comes to packing for life on the road.
As previously stated, Morgan reported a death case of colon cancer with LM induced by anti-ERBB2 CAR-T cells for off-target attack on normal lung cells. Also, in 2013, Lamers et al.47 reported that in his treating of metastatic RCC through CAR-T cells against carboxy-anhydrase-IX (CAIX), the patients appeared different level of hepatotoxicity, and the reason was the ectopic attack of biliary epithelial cells induced by anti-CAIX CAR-T cells.
Jumper cables: Sometimes for a couple different reasons, I found that my car battery died and I needed a jump. Most likely because I left the lights on or I charged my electronics too long without driving. It was a pain standing in front of a store asking people if they had jumper cables. I eventually got some jumper cables so when my car battery died, all I had to do was ask anyone who had a car around me if they could give me a jump rather than also having to ask them if they had jumper cables too.
Snacks/ Food: It is important to always have some sort of food in your car. Preferably on the floor on the passenger seat side as I did. I used that section for my food. It was easy when I got hungry, I could just reach over and grab a banana to eat when I needed it. It’s crucial to always have at least some stuff ready to eat anytime you may need it. Not eating can cause many problems. There were many times after work I was extremely hungry and was leaving work and had a piece of fruit I reached for and ate right from my car.
nothing wrong with living in your car and dating. as long as your car looks presentable right??? in your case I would start thinking about 1 of two things, get into actual camping to make letting her know easier or save up for a bigger vehicle such as a van or a full size suv. I can relate to what you are saying. I told my gf that since she doesnt live with me that i’ll be moving into our suv, its a 1997 ford expedition “eddie bauer” 4×4. its really nice comes fully loaded with leather interior with a 5.4L yes it’s a little more on fuel etc, but if you look around how many expedition’s you do see every day, its comnon as people walking down the street. The women are more understanding than you think. If anything when she see’s how you live she might just want to move in with you. look into a van or a full size suv. the reason I say expedition is when you fold the larger part of the back seat down it fits a single size mattress with ample room. it already comes with tinted out windows.If your working full time saving your money, then it wouldnt be that much more to invest in something a little more presentable. I thought thats what you guys are all saying, make it look presentable. I already told my mechanic that i need at least another 20K’s on my expedition for the simple fact that Its going to be my new home literally. so he told me not a problem, i’ll go over everything and make sure you will get at least 15-20ks before anything needs repair other than oil etc everyday. A little longbut maybe it’ll shed some insite to what your talking about. be safe
Many resorts, National Parks & Forests, State and County parks, hire folks to do general work. Some offer free camping or even dormitory style housing. Some resorts give free meals. There are many places to legally camp for free. The options are out there, even in the year 2008. You don’t have to stay put. Travel with the weather you like. Travel for months, stop for a month and work to save up more money to get out and travel again. Become a garbage picker or flea market hag. No one is forcing you to continue to live this debt ridden lifestyle. You are free!!! Life has no instruction booklet. You don’t need a house to put all that stuff in. You don’t need a fancy car to make you look happy. You don’t need a college degree to feel accomplished. Live life through experiences! Meet your fellow Americans. See the world around you. It (or you) may not be here tomorrow. Simplicity!
A post office box the other hand is an investment definitely worth having. It gives you a postal address for you to receive replies to job applications. It means relatives and friends can keep in contact with you. You can get business mail there, as well as letters from your employer if you still have a job. Post office boxes are cheap, useful and very practical for anyone sleeping in a car or van.
Secluded fields around a driving area/path are not obvious, you are going to have to drive around side streets. When you find one, park in it for a while to check it out. If you like it, speak with the business or property owner if it seems one is there. But if you think that the property owner will not, usually wealthy establishments or chain stores, then just wait it out – until you are asked to leave.
Keeping your car tidy and your stuff neatly stowed away serves two purposes. First, it makes your life in your car far more civilized and less like dwelling in a mouse nest. Second, your car will appear to outsiders more like a regular car, and you will avoid attracting unwanted attention with obvious signs of homelessness. Small plastic totes may be your best friend in the quest for car organization. Choose a size that you can stack six of easily in the available storage space area of your vehicle. A variety of colors will make finding your stuff more intuitive, though labels are also essential (use a permanent marker and big block letters). Sample labels:
A huge aspect of this nightly ritual is knowing where to park your car at night. Considering the goal here is for a restful night’s sleep, location here is incredibly important. As a general rule of thumb, you’re going to want to have a place established about an hour before sunset each day to prevent driving around and searching for spots at night. This also gives you time to scope out the scenery and determine whether or not it’s a safe bet.
Sleep is the ultimate key to a semi-permanent life on the road. Without the ability to consistently link several good nights’ of sleep, you will inevitably become a red-eyed, nerve shaken, road weary traveler who just can’t seem to down enough coffee. Invest in your sleep system knowing that satisfying this basic need is the first step in an epic road trip.
I got married almost 2 years ago.Now I’m 55 and my husband who refuses to settle.We have a 85 pound dog and chickens.I Had gotten them with the socalled knowledge that we were moving to Oregon soon.I was going to get work there.That was a joke.He later told me no.He had some work for friends to do.I hate where we are at.We live in a large van wIth tools all around.No water fridge air conditioner or heat.I Cook on a sm.propane stove and sweep out the never ending dog hair dirt.Always have some type of bug problem.flies mosquitos bees.I always get bit and have scars to prove it.He doesn’t so it’s nothing of his concern.Im a Christian and hate this .What do I do?
I was a security officer for about 13 years, and I can truly tell you what cops and security look for: Things that are out of place…things that don’t seem like they belong there. For example, in an apartment complex, if you park with the other vehicles (blend in), and keep a low profile (no lights at night…cigarettes, lighters, reading lights, etc), then you probably won’t get noticed. However, if you park in a secluded spot, I can almost guarantee that you will get the attention that you don’t want. Cops and (professional, trained) security look at things in black and white: Normal, or NOT NORMAL. It’s the “NOT NORMAL” things that trigger a response. Keep that in mind and you’ll do fine. 🙂
I was able to visit Singapore, and they offer dormitory living for the homeless. They ask that you help keep the place clean, and they give you a job working around the city. You get up, cleanup, and go to your job for that day. They give you a nice bag lunch, if your employee for the day does not feed you. There is not any panhandling in Singapore, for they take care of their own.
I’m a female and I’ve been doing it for a little over a year now. I’m not afraid and lonely like. I feel like a true free spirit. If you would see me you would never suspect, I’m not on skid row so there is a difference. The only problem I have is that everything takes longer because I have to drive from one place to another for something that I could have right at my door if I had a home to live in. I have to drive to my storage to change my clothing, drive to the P.O.Box, drive again to the gym to shower whether I’m going to work out or not and to eat 3 meals a day is another extra mileage, gasoline and time. The good news is that I finally got a decent paying job. It’a only a temp to hire, part-time position but if they hire me permanently it will be a full time 40 hour a week job so I will be able to afford a place to live. The only reason I want to find a home is so I can save time.
I <3 Walmart and campgrounds. National & State Forests are a LOT cheaper than National or State Parks, just not as many amenities. Walmarts, if you can nest yourself between a few RVs, aren't the BEST of sleep, but they really help to supplement the budget. Plus, I'll usually go in and buy an item under $10 to support the store – or because I had to pee and didn't want to be seedy. : )
Snacks/ Food: It is important to always have some sort of food in your car. Preferably on the floor on the passenger seat side as I did. I used that section for my food. It was easy when I got hungry, I could just reach over and grab a banana to eat when I needed it. It’s crucial to always have at least some stuff ready to eat anytime you may need it. Not eating can cause many problems. There were many times after work I was extremely hungry and was leaving work and had a piece of fruit I reached for and ate right from my car.
Personal safety should always be your number-one priority. Keep your keys near (but not in) the ignition so you can drive off on a moment's notice. Knives used for food preparation and tire irons can be used as weapons. Pepper spray is another option. You may want to learn your state's gun laws and purchase a handgun or other firearm if you do not already own one. Criminals seek out people who appear vulnerable, or travel alone. Sometimes the sound of a cocked gun will be sufficient enough to deter a potential mugger. However, be aware that if police become aware that you have a gun, they may shoot you for possessing a weapon. Police generally do not regard homeless people well and there has been many unfortunate cases of shootings of homeless people (even unarmed ones) by police.[13]
I use all kinds of organizers – different size clear plastic containers, so you can see what is in them. at wal mart or big lots. large travel bags of different kinds that have a lot of organizational sections is really helpful. I get these at thrift shops, they are way too expensive retail. so you have to shop around and be patient and PRAYERFUL .
Liver cancer is one of the most common malignancies worldwide, and it accounts for the third leading causes of cancer-related mortality. Currently, the hepatocellular carcinoma (HCC) mortality has been decreased with the advanced progression of surgical resection and adjuvant chemotherapy. However, the overall prognosis of liver cancer is poor with 5-year overall survival rate less than 12%. Moreover, for the majority of patients are diagnosed at an advanced stage, potentially curative therapies including chemotherapy, chemoembolization, ablation, external beam radiotherapy, and proton beam therapy are frequently ineffective. Even sorafenib as the first clinically approved target drug therapy could only extend overall survival by 2–3 months.1 Hence, new treatment strategies to prolong survival and to minimize the risk of adverse response are desperately needed for patients with liver cancer.2
Good luck to you and your dog. It will work out. Try to land a job where you can work and have your dog tag along. There are portable a/c units for purchase that can keep your dog cool while you are at work, you’ll need a generator. Perhaps your job has a nice garage parking area and allow you access to an electrical outlet. If all else fails you can run the vehicle all day with the a/c cranked. Pull the driver seat up as far as you can and chain lock it to the steering wheel to prevent vehicle theft. Get dark tinted windows and an alarm. Don’t forget to walk your dog on breaks. There’s a lot of other ideas you can think of.
alicia, just a word of warning, I am from Colorado, grew up there along the front range and it has changed. I don’t know when you were there last or where you were, but crime has literally taken over there. Colorado springs and Denver, but really all over. I would not recommend Colorado to anyone! If you like the winter or seasons, I would recommend Flagstaff, Arizona. Beautiful country and the winters are not bad.
Suvs and trucks cost more to operate and own. The foamboard that you get for a few bucks in the school supplies section works very well.. it must be BLACK. It just pops in and out and when you’re driving just throw them on the package tray.. they don’t even take up space. Nobody realizes im in the car except the police who have noticed my pattern… I know people are unaware because I’ve gotten handle checkers and people coming up to the car to “Rescue” my dog, thinking he was in here by himself (he likes to sleep on the package tray, they see him in the rear window). To be safe parking just never park somewhere where you could be blocked in and not be able to get away, like the parking spaces on the edges of lots against the curb. Someone could just pull in front of you and then you can’t drive off and escape.
I was not kidding on that having a rental was expensive and this is what i spent every month. Since I live on site, my insurance has dropped,fuel bill has dropped and the car payment has dropped. My paycheck is $1200.00 every two weeks. so I’m getting $2400.00 every month. 1st month was expensive since I have had to buy everything but even still i have $500.00 in the saving after everything is said and done.
Even without the marine battery, you can still get the 140 watt inverter, and one king size heat pad, when you want to just sit in your car for 30 minutes or so, you can keep warm. Plug the inverter into the cigarette lighter of you car, and plug the heat pad into that. you car battery does not have enough power to run it for very long. The digital voltage reader can also plug into the cigarette lighter of you car, so you can see how much voltage is left. I don’t know exact facts but I think for any 12 volt car battery, I would try to not go lower than 12.0 volts for the car battery.

Sometimes you come to rely on a place, and it really is not yours – you don’t own it, but you come to rely on it. And you can get attitudes yourself against people, that is the public. and that can get you into trouble: have an attitude with the public and someone will call the cops on you or worse, complain to the management or owners, who then call the cops and ask you to leave and you are pissed off already. Try not to agitate with the public or the people who notice you, whoever they are, customers or workers. If you feel that agitation coming on, leave ASAP and stay away for a few days.
I am currently living out of my car now. It’s not a truck; it’s a 2-door sports car, with almost everything I own in it. Luckily, I too, live in California, and sleep on the beach at night, when the cops don’t wake me up @ 1 am telling me to leave. When they do, i’m forced to sleep in it. I make it work. Hopefully i’ll get out of this rut by winter. Clifornia or not it gets **** cold out here!
I had more disposable income than ever and practically no social obligations (it is difficult to be close to people and keep this secret). I went out to eat at almost every place the newspaper recommended (go for lunch specials always cheaper). I saw plays (student discount). I went to festivals (eat before you go, and joy the free music). I went on road trips halfway across the country.

I liked the post. I live in Seattle and can no longer afford anything, I will be moving out of my apartment into my car… because I have no other choice right now, not because I’m an “entitled white girl…” I found this helpful in preparing me for this daunting living situation. So thanks for helping me feel a bit more prepared and a little less frightened of my new situation. Perhaps even looking at is an a new adventure and less of new homelessness.
Get a car alarm, keep your car clean by visiting the “do it yourself car wash” with the spray hose that takes quarters. Possibly keep a stun gun or pepper spray (or bear spray) in your car with you. Add one way mirror, mesh, or dark tint to the inside of your camper topper and park at Wal-Marts or campgrounds. Maybe offer to rent the driveway space at a friends house – don’t abuse the system! For those of you with truck toppers, try to enter into the bed area using the pass through window of the cab, that way you don’t draw unnecessary attention to what you’re doing. Park in well lit areas where other people may be present, if you can’t afford a real car alarm get the fake red LED flashing kit (this one is solar powered and shock sensitive) this one is a bit cheaper.
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Now for advice, spots for sleeping….i found church parking lots best my preference is close to somewhat busy highway (close enough that it wouldnt disturb your sleep) I found a great place for myself not only is it where i described its also close to a sheriff substation. There are churches that frown upon sleeping in thier parking lot but not many so if you can either ask and tell them your situation they usually appreciate it or you just sleep there and wait to see if they say something. If your religious as i am you also get a sense of being watched over by God (thats what i feel. also i found that city cops are different than sheriffs, city cops tend to be too eager to chase you away from lots where sheriffs will say nothing until a complaint is made about you, and some sheriffs will talk to you if your awake making friends with you and do their paperwork kinda watching over you as well.
Try to make money. Many people perform on 3rd Street Promenade, which can be a lot of fun and a great way to support yourself. If you have any talent at all or can even do something out of the ordinary (or you just have a funny outfit) you're sure to at least make a few dollars every time you go out. The license to perform is $35 and can be purchased from City Hall.
In any case, since you’re doing this already– a van would allow you a much better setup. You can put a futon in the back and sleep much better that way. Good sleep is essential for good health (physical and mental). But there’s an increased cost of gas and probably repairs with a van… so you could just stop playing Russian roulette over credit cards and get yourself a room. GET A ROOM.
Those who would rather not lug around a whole house while they travel, however, have turned to another alternative: #vanlife. The term was coined in 2011 by Foster Huntington, a former Ralph Lauren designer who gave up his life in New York City to surf the California coast, living and traveling in a 1987 Volkswagen Syncro. His photos, which he posted on Instagram and later compiled in a $65 book titled, “Home Is Where You Park It,” launched what The New Yorker dubbed a “Bohemian social-media movement.”
3 years ago I moved into my crown Victoria when my living g situation became too volatile. I LOVED car living. I lived in the neighborhood where I worked, taking care of a young boy with autism. It was also a fairly heavily gang-infested neighborhood. But they kept a strange eye put for me, as did the police, who also knew my situation. Then came summer, and with it, oppressive heat. I moved North to live with my Mom. She died a few months later from cancer. Long story short, I bought my first house (mobile home) last August. However, I’m disabled now by PTSD & back/neck injury & can no longer work. I’m awaiting disability approval, but in the meantime, it’s looking like I’m facing a minimum of 6 months in which I will have no way whatsoever to pay my bills (including the rent for the land upon which my trailer sits) – no income, and no help.
not trying to rant but i grew up in foster care industry, and yes thats all that it is. it is an industry, there are good people it however most are in it for the money. all i have to do is let some kids sleep in the bunk and i get to make a living, cool lets get it done. i need that money. i have no kids, however being a ward of the state if was given the chance i would much rather have been with parents, learn from them, what their life was like, i know nothin about them, not even my nationality. foster care has done good things for people yet looking at statistics how many make it out of the “system”. not many

I <3 Walmart and campgrounds. National & State Forests are a LOT cheaper than National or State Parks, just not as many amenities. Walmarts, if you can nest yourself between a few RVs, aren't the BEST of sleep, but they really help to supplement the budget. Plus, I'll usually go in and buy an item under $10 to support the store – or because I had to pee and didn't want to be seedy. : )


Total RNA was extracted from mouse liver using TRIzol reagent (Invitrogen). Equivalent amounts of RNA from each treatment group were pooled, and 20 μg was used for Northern blot analysis. The primers used for generation of each cDNA probe were described previously (39). All of the blots were stripped and hybridized subsequently with the β-Actin probe as the internal control. For Q-PCR experiment, RNA was reverse-transcribed by using SuperScript™ III RT (Invitrogen). Samples were run by using SYBR green (Applied Biosystems) and compared with levels of GAPDH as a control. Thermal cycling was carried out with an ABI prism 7500 sequence detection system (Applied Biosystems). Primers are purchased from Qiagen.
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