I used to be a traveler back in 1993 traveling all around England and Scotland with a convoy of new age traveler, all of us sleeping in old ambulances, army trucks, vans, box vans etc. we even had a fire engine with us. Then the government jumped all over us a banned us living together and introduced laws to disband us. It was the most fun time in my life and met great characters I can never forget. I’m might leave my flat and live in my 16′ cabin cruiser on the River Thames and may even buy a van in the future. I plan to live in my vehicles in England in the summer and save up and in October to to Kerala in southern India and spend the winter out there cheap and come back to England in April and do it all over again. Saving up for a river side retirement home in Kerala. I am forty this January so I have around 25 years to get the money together. Good luck and god bless to all those great people here living alternative homesteads. May you be blessed with what you need. Rex.


I asked the cops if there was any place in San Diego I could sleep in my car and they told me no and wrote me a ticket for illegal lodging in a park and ride which I was only in for less then 2 hours. Cost me 125$ at the El Cajon Courthouse. I talked to some cop friends of mine and they told me that I can get away with sleeping in my car if its private property and as long as the business is open. I tried a burger king after they closed and the cops kicked me out.
a. Organize, organize, organize! Have a place for everything and keep everything in its place. In addition to your sleeping items, you will need a carry-on style suitcase for clothes, a laundry bag for clothes pending a trip to the laundry (with air freshener), a “chuck box” (your car camping kitchen supplies), water storage container and a cup/water bottle, a tool box, a briefcase organizer for paperwork, a box with your camping supplies, a toiletry case (with towel, washcloths, shampoo, soap/shower gel, hairbrush, other hygiene supplies), flashlight/LED lamp and candles.

Most cops don’t give a fk and will be reasonable if you aren’t an asshole to them. All “security guards” are f-ing douche-bags and your best recourse with those is to tell them to fk their mothers and drive away. You need to find mutliple spots, like at least 10. Some spots are better than others, some nights/days you are going to be f-ed though and there will be no way to avoid the suck of it all. Travel light. This can be an ideal way to live given a few very important factors: A) you do not have to rely on strangers for paper checks or cash (e.g. a “job”) & B) you do not have to remain in any one town or city any longer than you desire to be there. Cannabis is helpful (particularly on solitary nights in the wilderness) and alcohol is a straight up killer. Nothing worse than waking up with an on deaths doorstep hangover in your f-ing car. Avoid that at all costs.
I have been sleeping in my car since 2010 and always have cats with me. In addition I rescue cats and dogs and foster cats, and also spay/neuter feral cats. It certainly can be done if you are able bodied. If you can barely care for yourself I would not add pets to that. But that is not the issue, first of all, get your cat used to being an indoor/outdoor cat. that is go in and out of the house (if you do NOT live on a busy street.) Then have the cat go into the vehicle instead of the house – when it wants an indoor setting of peace, quiet, safety, food. Make sure you put a litter box on the floor. Then travel a bit in the vehicle with your cat there. Don’t let him or her out. Just drive around and then sit at a park for several hours studying or something. Do that several times.
Another core idea is to live “out of” the car rather than “in” the car. Spending all of your time in a small space can be claustrophobic. Sleeping (and possibly working) in a car while you spend the remainder of your time outdoors is much easier to manage. In my case, I slept and worked in the car (I am a digital nomad), but otherwise spent as much time outdoors as possible.
But first I want to spend the summer somewhere…not sure where yet. The best thing I got were a couple of survival blankets for $7 each from a sporting goods store. One side is blue and the other is foil colored used mainly for really cold weather for wrapping around you to keep warm. I put one on my carseat and then I put on a blanket and over that I put the second survival blanket. Keeps me toasty warm. I put another one on the passenger seat floor with a blanket on it for my mini-schnauzer. Then I put a blanket over him although he actually likes being on the cool side.
Depends on where you live. If you live in a climate where the outdoors can essentially be "your space" for most of the year, that changes things. If I were to do this here... I'd have to have the heat cranked in the winter and either the air conditioning in the summer or learn to ignore the constant drone of mosquitos. You also have to get rid of most of your things and find a safe place to bathe/get water/use the washroom, etc...
Jumper Cables: Sometimes for a couple different reasons, I found that my car battery died and I needed a jump. Most likely because I left the lights on or I charged my electronics too long without driving. It was a pain standing in front of a store asking people if they had jumper cables. I eventually got some jumper cables so when my car battery died, all I had to do was ask anyone who had a car around me if they could give me a jump rather than also having to ask them if they had jumper cables too.
I follow the forum over at MMM. There’s a guy doing the same thing there in the “Journals” section. He’s in his fifties, living in a Volt and digging out of debt. To access the journals, you will have to create a log-in because that section is privacy protected. His name is dagiffy1. Create an account, then search for his name in the members section. I think you’ll find it encouraging.
Get a Mailbox. There are several places to rent mailboxes in Santa Monica. It is best to get one that doesn't say P.O. box in front of it. For instance, if your address is 7th Street., Santa Monica, #28, people will assume that #28 means Apartment #28 instead of a mailbox number. Many companies require your home address(insurance, bank, etc.) and this will pass.

Sill need suggestions about keeping food? If you’re going to do this for months, realize it could be twice as long as you desire. Things might not turn out right. So prepare right. Get yourself a large deep cycle marine battery and an automobile cooler. you can put enough food in there and the best ones cool down the air by about 40 degrees. They plug into the cigarette lighter, but you can buy an inexpensive socket like that that has wires and clips exactly for attaching it directly to a battery. Look at Amazon.com. There are many good ideas here:
Public toilet facilities may not be available at all times – particularly for boondockers. Most vehicle dwellers end up using some sort of jug or wide-mouthed container for urine, while a bucket (two-gallon to five-gallon) with a plastic bag liner is commonly used for excrement. Cat litter or cedar shavings can be sprinkled in the bag to control odor until the bag can be disposed of in a waste receptacle. This may not be glamorous, but it does work for those times when you cannot access public facilities.
CLS, You’re doing all you can do. You don’t have to tell anyone what you are doing. I’d file bankruptcy and focus on paying for mostly your vehicle. A Ford Focus is great for living space. Place a sun visor across the front window and make sure the other windows are tinted. CA has nice weather to avoid running the engine to stay warm. Down here in Florida is just HEAT. I hope you got the job at the gym. Also try job service agencies. They can land you a desk job. Unemployment is not very much. As far as searching for a place to park at try the gym. Walmart is a hot spot for vehicle theft—-be careful. I saw on television that some Walmarts have spaces available for people living in their cars. It’s great for their business. Try a 24 hour grocery store. The parking lots are filled with silly folks who can’t even remember where they park and the employees are always out and about collecting shopping carts which is good for detouring crime. Another good place to park is a rest area. You’ll never be bothered there and a lot of these places have armed security. Hotels too. If you are ever asked by authorities to leave, no problem. Tell the police you work long shifts and want to get some sleep before hitting the road. Just search for a new parking area in a different city if all else fails. If you get a basic 9-5 job that pays just above minimum wage; in about two years from now you should have about $20,000 saved. Look at the bright side: You WON’T be living pay check to pay check. Good Luck!!!

This post was inspired by my first experience with a police officer. I was parked in the Mockingbird DART station parking lot( I really like this spot for some reason). After having parked there for over 4 months I got a knock on my door. They told me to get out and hand them my license. They checked my record and asked me to move on. They asked me has anyone ever told you you can’t park here? I said no.
It is not paradise: I still work seven days a week, and there are still bills to pay. In the summer, there is the problem of shade from an early-morning roasting. In the winter of 2011, a few -17C nights provided a frosty welcome on my bedclothes. I always have to know where the nearest public toilet is. There is no running water, cheap electricity or refrigeration. Still, it beats wearing a suit for a living.
For Andy Cochrane, director of marketing at Oru Kayak and inhabitant of the TacoMama—a built-out 2015 Toyota Tacoma—living out of a truck is a rebellion against the status quo. “People perpetuate norms about the right way to live without being conscious of them. Specifically home ownership. Very few people question the American dream to buy a house. It’s a rite of passage. It offers security and comfort; it’s a spot for your growing family; it shows your affluence,” Cochrane says. “Or maybe all it shows is your willingness to follow someone else’s dream. Maybe it only makes you happy because it helps you fit in.” For the 28-year-old, it does the opposite: “[Homeownership] takes away the greatest joy in life—serendipity—and replaces it with monotony.”

Those survival blankets? the ones that look like aluminium foil? they are good. It takes a lot to rip them, they are cheap and take up hardly any room in a pack. If you are in a tent or a hammock wrap yourself in one of those emergency blankets and then get into your sleeping bag. Socks, hat, gloves. If you choose a hammock, get one without a space bar and made of parachute nylon which folds up small, Ticket to the Moon makes a good one, buy a double size and sleep in it diagonally, that way your body will be flat and not like a banana. Hennessey is good too. Maybe tape another foil blanket to the surface of your hammock underneath. If you put the foil between hammock and sleeping bag it gets all scrunched up. good luck. If your pool showers have cubicles you can shave and clean teeth in the shower where no one will see.


As I said, I loved car living before… I just hope I can make it work as well. This time I will have 1, possibly 2 cats with me. This begs the question, what the heck do I do with them during the day, if the car is not running & I am not parked in the shade? I have to keep 1 of them bc he is 16, he was my mum’s, and he has only ever known she & i. I can not just give him away or give him up to SPCA. If cats can make it living in a van, I will find put how & make it happen!
I follow the forum over at MMM. There’s a guy doing the same thing there in the “Journals” section. He’s in his fifties, living in a Volt and digging out of debt. To access the journals, you will have to create a log-in because that section is privacy protected. His name is dagiffy1. Create an account, then search for his name in the members section. I think you’ll find it encouraging.
There are several sites online that can tell you where to stay, cost and time limits. Just search RV parks in the area you are looking for. most of them cost about 45 a day but if you stay for a month you can pay as little as $350 a month. If you find a resort that needs help, and there a lot of them, you only have to pay for electricity. You have shower, laundry, swimming, club house and garbage service. These are usually included in the price. You also have internet access. Good look and be safe.
Glucose tolerance test was performed by i.p. injecting glucose (0.625g/kg for obese mice and 1.5g/kg for lean mice). Blood glucose was measured by tail bleeds at 0, 15, 30, 60, and 120 min post glucose dose. Hyperinsulinemic clamp (insulin dose is 15 mU/kg/min) was performed and calculated as described in our previous publication (34). Acylcarnitines and organic acids were measured using stable isotope dilution techniques as previously described (35, 36). Acylcarnitine species were measured using flow injection tandem mass spectrometry (MS/MS) and sample preparation methods described previously (37, 38). Organic acids were quantified using a previously described method that utilizes Trace GC Ultra coupled to a Trace DSQ MS operating under Excalibur 1.4 (Thermo Fisher Scientific) (35).
U can get away with it to some exstent but u really need to find more than one place like loves to park because ur gonna attract attention to yourself if u stay in the same place so find other spots ur comphy with an move around from place to place every 2-3 days,,walmarts are good,,travelers are always staying there while passing thru so u can use that as an excuse unless u have been camped out for days when u get asked,,,ive done it,,,the main thing is b polite if ur approched by secutity guard,,most of them dont care but is thier job so leave an give it afew dats before u come back an most wont mind!,,good luck an god bless!
If you can afford it, stay one night in a cheap hotel to give yourself a shower and the opportunity to wash/rinse your clothes in the sink/shower. The #1 thing I tell my friends to use – especially those who travel on missionary trips abroad – is baby wipes. Get the generic ones with shea butter or aloe. (Walgreen’s or CVS has them cheap.) I have used these head to toe when I could not take a shower. Plus, I’ve used them on my face for years…and people compliment me on how beautiful my skin is. (I just turned 50!)
Get the things you'll need. The basic essentials for living in a car are a blanket, a pillow, and a mattress or some other padding. Due to the angles involved in the seating setup, you may develop dull back pain from the cramped quarters. Should this happen, be sure to have pain medication on hand. Once you have your sleeping gear, you'll want a blanket to place over the back seat, and draped over the two front seats. This will block light and people's views.
i found that church parking lots are the safest myself, some will chase you off but there are those that encourage it, i found one on the corner of dewey and madison, they’re also fantastic people when my alternator went out and just starting a job with no way to get there they ran out and donated an alternator, im usually there about 2 days out of the week now im comfortable there, the rest of the time i work a graveyard shift thats turning full time, so for right now during my job i found most parking lots are good, i get enough sleep and work. Another discovery i made as far as showering in most business buildings the bathrooms usually has showers, some has codes but i found a funny way to get around that; before i tell i need to let you know where something nice so they’ll think you work there that always work for me, anyway what i did to get the code i just went to one of the secretaries and asked what the code was, worked everytime so far

Private sites, of which there are around 7,000 in the UK, might be a safe bet. These tend to be holiday sites, or they are owned by travellers themselves. They have mod-cons, such as washing and cooking facilities, but they usually don’t want travellers or gypsies as patrons, even those living in a Ferrari, so they may cap the number of nights you can stay or refuse you entry.
Oddly i am wondering what attracted their attention.I have a low profile vehicle – i mean NO ONE lives in a Prius. did you know a 6foot 4 man can sleep fully stretched out in the back with the front passenger seat pulled fully forward. I use a front windshield sun visor to block the light in the front(which i am guessing is what did it -since it is winter and sun is not an undesirable thing) I also use fabric stretched from the rear hatchback to the sun visor to block out the light on the two sides. I usually back up to a wall or a bush.
What am I missing as a regular expense? Obviously, It’d be nice to afford a gym membership but saving is more important to me and, I’ve been homeless before and it’s not that tough to find a place to shower plus, I have a pocket puppy who needs exercise, too. We can hike in the winter and swim in the summer. Velcro attachable weights don’t take up much room.

Keep eating healthy. The McDonald's Dollar Menu is great, but you can't eat burgers forever. There are several other options. The homeless shelter (O.P.C.C) on Olympic serves meals regularly. Another option is to just buy a loaf of bread and a can of beans from Ralph's on Broadway and Lincoln. Packages of uncooked hot dogs will provide a lot of food. Make sure you are eating both carbs and protein, and take vitamins if you can.


Your going to meet homeless people who really have nothing – no vehicle – who live out in the fields and other less visible places which they need just like you. I share food with them, a little money sometimes, and good conversation but not always, and I have NEVER had a problem. The police and security will tell you to beware of the homeless people.
Hey I’ve been living out of my car off and on for the past year in northern Idaho. I can’t wait for spring to get here since this winter had some cold nights. We had about 2 weeks of “code red” storms. I thought I was going to die I was so cold, Still I am going to miss those nights once the extreme heat of summers on me. Right now, about 30-40 degrees is perfect weather for this homeless kid.

Where will you be parking this car? Are there local ordinances that limit overnight parking? Is there a local ordinance prohibiting sleeping in public, or camping in the city limits? Or idling your vehicle for a period of time? Will there be children living in the car? If so, then per state law, they must have running water. Where are you going to get that? Running hot and cold water, in your car.

Have any of you thought about living in an RV? My parents are no longer able to use their 5th wheel, truck and camping package. This is a rare combo because it includes a camping membership that allows you to stay free anywhere the camping club has a park in the US and Canada. Granted, if you have a job, this probably isn’t feasible; but if you’re disabled or retired, it’s a great option. (And, no: I’m not trying to sell you my parent’s RV package!)
I used to stay in the state forest in my suv. It was so much better than that uneasy feeling you have sleeping with one eye open in a parking lot. It pays to spend a whole day driving thru the closest state forest and pick out a few spots where you can park and not be seen. The forest has its own hazards but they are much less than in civilization. I used to put a huge tarp over my ford explorer and bungee it to the vehicle… This is something you cant do in civilization without attracting attention..… Read more »

Sleep is essential for health, comfort, and mental functioning. Unfortunately, most cars are not very comfortable for sleeping. Some car dwellers have successfully removed seats to build a bed, while other are able to fold seats flat to make a comfortable bed space. It is worth experimenting with different sleeping options before moving into the car to be sure you have a system that will work.
A reflective sun shade for the windshield is a must: in addition to protecting you from prying eyes, it will reduce heat gain in summer and may provide some insulation in winter. You can also order these reflective shields for door windows. Tinted glass is helpful (department stores sometimes sell “press-on” window tints which are easy to apply), but you will feel more secure with a real privacy barrier such as a curtain. If you don’t have time to custom-make a velcro curtain for your car, consider simply cutting out cardboard to fit your windows and using tape to secure it. Finally, earplugs and an eyeshade will improve your sleep immeasurably, by helping you forget that the street is inches away. Even in quiet residential areas, the city can be a noisy place, with passersby talking, occasional sirens, and garbage trucks clanging by in the wee hours.
Here’s the most important question you need to really ask yourself before undertaking such a life-altering task. It’s also what most people ask when presented with the topic of living out of a vehicle – which makes sense. So, why would you ever want to live out of your car? Well, several really. First off, with rising rents across the country, it’s no wonder more and more people (who are oftentimes employed full-time) opt to live in their cars for an extended period of time. It’s when you consider that places like San Francisco, New York, Los Angeles, even Boston, where the average price for a one bedroom apartment ranges between $2K-3.5K a month that the motivation for car living becomes clearer.

I always ask people, “May I sit in the parking lot after hours and use the internet?” But the wealth complain and there it goes, and they give some evil reason like someone abused it, and the workers and managers lie all around saying they never gave me permission and so on. All kinds of lies to protect themselves and blame the innocent and needy.The well to do hate seeing poor people get what they preceieve is a free things, what they perceive is like free drugs and free sex. some kind of thrill, the poor destroying their wealthy land of rape and honey.
It turns out that living in a VW Passat is tricky at first. Four walls and a roof over my head, yes, but no tea and coffee facilities to speak of. When people find out about my lifestyle, they ask the same three questions. Where do you sleep? Where do you park? Where do you shower? Only women ask about where you go to the toilet. First things first, I got hold of a travel kettle that plugs into the cigarette lighter. Next I sorted out the sleeping arrangements. It took a while to perfect, but sliding forward the two front seats reveals what I call the back-seat bedroom. The problem of comfort and interior decor was solved with a bean bag behind the driver's seat, pillows to level out the back bench, bungee ropes, gardening wire, torches and some fetching bed linen.

It’s tempting to rely on fast food and restaurants when we don’t have the comfort of our own kitchens. Unfortunately, not only will that get expensive, but your health can begin to suffer from too much restaurant food. If you must, you can experiment with using your car engine to cook sealed packets of food, but the rest of us may prefer to keep it simple. A non-leaking cooler with working drainage helps you eat fresh, but you’ll need to focus on nonperishables as much as possible. Keep it simple, buying sturdy fruits and vegetables (citrus, apples, carrots, cucumbers and celery store reasonably well; lettuce and strawberries need to be eaten right away), nut butters and crackers, dry cereal, canned soups and beans. Cheese, bread, eggs, butter, and long-life tetrapacks of milk or non-dairy “milks” can last well in your cooler.
8. Law enforcement encounters: should be a no brainer, Be respectful, compliant, and, if you followed the above, they will be respectful to you for being” Clean, Quite, and Low Key”. One may need state that as their intent. In short, you don’t want them to haul you away, and you don’t want them to have reason to come pay you a visit when they have some down time.
Sill need suggestions about keeping food? If you’re going to do this for months, realize it could be twice as long as you desire. Things might not turn out right. So prepare right. Get yourself a large deep cycle marine battery and an automobile cooler. you can put enough food in there and the best ones cool down the air by about 40 degrees. They plug into the cigarette lighter, but you can buy an inexpensive socket like that that has wires and clips exactly for attaching it directly to a battery. Look at Amazon.com. There are many good ideas here:

I’ve recently just thought about this. I moved to California about a year a go. I moved in with my best friend and her boyfriend in his house. Let’s not say the best situation. A lot of fighting going on plus i pay tons of money to live in someone else’s house with rules. I live about 10 mins from Santa Monica and work there also. I work nights and sleep during the day. So, i really wouldn’t even have to sleep in my car. I guess i could just sleep on the beach. I wouldn’t reccomend sleeping on the beach at night( i beleive its illegal) but during the day I would be just like anyone else.


I womder if it is ok to park at a travel stop all the time? I know that people that live in their vehicles do not stay in the same place due to not wanting a run in with the cops. But I wonder if it would ok to stay at a Loves travel station every night to sleep. I am about to live in my vehicle in less then 2 weeks. I looked around and found a Loves in a safe area. I really do not want to be going from place to place to sleep. But I will if that is what I have to do to survive. Any advice.
Previous studies have shown beneficial effects of PB on insulin sensitivity in both mouse models (8) and human T2D patients (8, 9), but the basis for these antidiabetic effects has been unclear. We used two complementary approaches to critically test the hypothesis that CAR mediates these effects. The first is the pharmacologic substitution of TC, a much more specific mouse CAR agonist that does not activate AMP kinase, for PB. The second is the genetic introduction of the CAR−/− allele into the ob/ob mouse model of obesity and T2D. TC induces antidiabetic effects very similar to those described for PB in the ob/ob model, and those effects are lost in the ob/ob, CAR−/− double mutants, definitively establishing CAR as the mediator of such antidiabetic effects. While this manuscript was in review, similar antidiabetic effects of TC were reported (24). TC treatment decreased body weight in those studies, possibly due to toxic effects that do not occur in our mice. This decreased body weight could amplify the antidiabetic effect, but is clearly not essential for the TC activity that we observed or the previous results with PB, which also did not decrease body weight (8).
×